Sectarios: Foro de la Llamada de Cthulhu

Relic. Item.
Day. It is Day. After The Supernal Prism comes into play destroy all Night cards.

After The Supernal Prism leaves play, shuffle it into its owner's deck.

Action: Sacrifice The Supernal Prism to have each player discard his hand, if able. Then each player who discarded his hand draws five cards, if able.

Magnus escribió:Si tu número de cartas en mano es 0, no tienes mano de cartas, por lo que no puedes descartarte. Además, te añade un "if able" en la explicación.

YoP escribió:Si pero estamos en un juego en el que en algunas ocasiones cero también se considera un número, el "if able" puede venir a referido a si otro efecto del juego impide al jugador descartarse o robar cartas. Por eso mi duda

(2.21) Player Hand
A player only has a “hand” if said player has at least one drawn card not currently in play. Thus, if a player does not possess at least one unplayed drawn card, he does not have a “hand” for the purposes of triggering effects, paying costs, or being targeted by card effects that require having a “hand.”

Randolph Carter escribió:Lo pasivo va primero.

Por lo tanto (en "teoría absurda damoniana" no lo sé) se baraja el mazo y luego se roban 5 cartas... porque se sacrifica (el pago), se cumple la pasiva, y luego se roban las cartas.

The Action Window in Detail
1) Action is initiated After a player initiates an action, the timing window starts.
For the initiation stage of any player action, a player must go through the following sub steps, in order. The first step is always revealing the card or declaring the intent to use an ability.
Then:
a) Determine the cost (to either play the card or pay for the card’s effect) or costs (if multiple costs are necessary for the intended action).
b) Check play restrictions, including verification and designation of applicable targets or cards to be effected.
c) Apply any penalties to the cost(s). (Any effects that modify a penalty are applied to that penalty before it becomes a part of the cost.)
d) Apply any other active modifiers (including reducers) to the cost(s).
e) Pay the cost(s).
f) Play the card, or trigger the effect, and proceed to step two

2) Disrupts
In clockwise order, players now have the opportunity to disrupt the action. If all players pass, then the action will be executed, and can no longer be disrupte

3) Action is executed The active player now executes the effects of the action. If this action discards or destroys one or more cards, returns one or more cards to a player’s hand or deck, these cards immediately leave play.

4) Passive abilities are initiated Any passive abilities whose timing requirement has been met as a result of the action (or a disrupt, forced response, or response), are now initiated. As with the action itself, before a passive ability is executed, all players have the option to disrupt the passive ability. If all players pass on the disrupt option, the ability is executed. Remember that if two passive abilities are triggered at the same time